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I’m a bit depressed today. It’s to do with the fact I’m old and don’t have a job and have NOTHING in my life. To be honest it’s scary. I think I’ll be stuck at home till I die and I don’t want that. I had dreams, I wanted to be a comic artist or do designs for games companies and for a little while I did work in design before I fucked things up royally. Now I realise I’m not that good an artist and that has killed any motivation I have, I may as well accept that job in Macdonald’s and get used to the fact that’s all I’ll ever be. I hate my life T_T

Kay better go into town as i have to go to the job center and depress myself even more.

on 2008-07-25 01:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kurosaki-akane.livejournal.com
I wish I knew how to help you on this, but no one fails at life more than me ;;

But if you want to be an artist, I must recommend you to never give up! Keep trying and learning, remember that some things need time. For that, you must work hard, ne?

on 2008-07-25 05:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
Aww it's okay I know this is something I have to find the courage for. And you don't fail at all I wish I had your motivation and skills to do a game like you and even to do a manga of my own.

Yeah they do and I will try to stick to drawing. I just sometimes think my age is against me really but heck I won't know till I try harder *hugs*

on 2008-07-25 05:42 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kurosaki-akane.livejournal.com
Age doesn't matter! Do you think that Obata Takeshi is younger than you? (^^;;
Talent is talent~

on 2008-07-25 05:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
Ohhh I had no idea how old he was till I looked, okay I won't moan about my age ^_^ After seeing his old Hikaru no Go stuff it's amazing how much he's improved.

on 2008-07-25 02:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com
Beleve me, I know just how you feel. I had so many dreams involving my art and writing and right now its just like I'm drifting and nothing I wanted has happened for me.

*hugs* But your art is good! And don't stop drawing or anything, do it just for fun if nothing else. And even if you have to get a job in retail or something like that to paybthe bills keep looking out for oppurtunities to do what you really want to do. You never know what might crop up for you so long as you keep looking.
Edited on 2008-07-25 02:51 pm (UTC)

on 2008-07-25 05:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
It's a horrible thing not knowing where your life is going, I hope you can find something like im searching for *hugs*

But thanks Manda ♥ I’ve just been comparing myself to some people on Deviant art who are amazing, but it’s the opposite that got me down because one of my best friends has got a job illustrating a book and T-shirts and I hate to say this as I love her to bits but she can’t draw, she always traces (she even used on of my ideas but I was too nice to say so) and it gets me down that I can’t seem to get anywhere like she can. I have to keep trying though and yeah at least I can do it for fun till something comes up. I just really, really don’t want to work in a factory or McDonalds like the job centre is pushing me to do D:

on 2008-07-25 09:05 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com
Is it a confidence problem? Like with interviews and stuff? Because maybe you could ask the job center if you can get any help and advice for those. If like me you end up on job seekers for more than 6 months they'll put you on a course for that anyway.

I'd hold out for a retail position at least, even if there's not many going now, come September though they'll be doing their Christmas hiring, so try handing out CV's and sending spec letters anywhere you think you might enjoy working (or would more than McDonalds XD; ). It suks but sometimes you gotta do the bad stuff just to get by.

on 2008-07-25 09:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
I do lack it sometimes but I'm okay with interviews because I've been to so mannnny *dies* But it's just trying to find work I'd like or can do because my allergies stop me from that sometimes. I had to quit working at the cinema because of them, that blew so much ;_; Most of the retail work in Scunny at the moment is only for 6-12 hours a week and I need full time just to cover the train fare into town D: I do have my 6 month interview coming up soon so I'll see what they can do for me. I think I need to look further to towns I can travel to like Lincoln, Doncaster or Sheffield.

I hope I can jump into working for the games shop come Christmas, I did do HMV last year so I'm going to ask them if they'd have me back for crimbo. I guess I'm just frustrated over the lack of decent jobs right now.

Oh sorry for the rambling, but thanks for listening :D

on 2008-07-25 09:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com
Ohhh, I haven't. Haha, I have an interview coming up for Ventura to work in a call center soon which is making me nervous lol. I don't really want to do it, but the money would be good.

And yeaah, thats my problem, a lot of the work going now is just part-time and I need 30-40 hours really :/

If you worked there before you probably have a good chance of getting hired again, especially if you left a good impression.

on 2008-07-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] yuna-aoki.livejournal.com
When JK Rowling completed the first of the Harry Potter's books, she was unemployed and living on state benefits. She was depressed and even contemplated suicide.

Come on, facts speak by themselves. Just don't give up. You are not the only dreamer here.

on 2008-07-25 05:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
Ah that’s so true and she’s an older lass like me, it was the whole age thing that got to me also because I’ll be hitting 33 come October D: People constantly moan at me that I should have a job and to forget being an artist and just settle down but I am a dreamer and really thanks because it makes me feel better to know I’m not the only one.

Oh a Peter Petrelli icon ♥

on 2008-07-25 10:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] yuna-aoki.livejournal.com
Oh, believe me. I must make some important decisions this year and I don’t know where to turn my head. Aajgshfg being a dreamer sucks sometimes >__<

Anyway, as other people have told you, getting a job you hate is sometimes necessary, but it's just another step. Of course you can eventually get the job you want, but in the meantime you have to live, don’t you? If you accept a job at Mc Donald’s, you don’t have to feel as if you were stuck there, because you are not. Let them moan and focus on your goals D:

Btw, if you are not confident of your writing, finding a scriptwriter is not really hard. I am working as scriptwriter myself, and I would sooo help you if my English was better.


Oh yes ♥ I love Heroes

on 2008-07-26 02:18 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
It does, but I wish you the best in what ever you decide to do ♥

Yeah I've come to realise that, i'm going to try for shops i'd like, something a little geeky maybe so I know I wont get bored. I used to work in a record shop and it wasn't that bad really, apart from the customers XD

I'd love to colab with someone someday because my writing is a little awkward as I'm more a visual person. I have to say with no lie that I think your English is amazing. It awesome by itself that your learning so many languages, I can only do very bad French and some Japanese :)

And thanks for listening dear I'm feeling much better today about things.

Oh same here, as superhero fan I love it so much ♥

on 2008-07-25 06:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kyriesanctus.livejournal.com
I've got the job woes just like you. I'm about to accept a job at Food Lion.. The place I quit working after two days because I could already feel the despair coming over me.. Because I just really need a job. I thought I would be able to find a place to work that WASN'T some retail hell-hole, but it turns out, there are so few jobs out there that I really just have to take what I can get.

That in no way means I'm giving up my dreams, though. I still have so many of them.. I wouldn't be able to stop dreaming if I tried. ^^; Just start out small--do a short story. A short comic. 6-15 pages at most. (It's what I plan on doing! Actually, I really have a lot of great ideas and I was going to invite everybody to be in on it with me when I got the chance to do it. XD So of course if I do decide to go through with it, you're welcome to be a part of it!) Even if your first one is absolute crap, you finish it, and learn from it. Then, you do it again, until eventually.. Bam. You have a great, short comic. Layouts and all that fun stuff.. A lot of the learning comes from trial and error. There's no big secret we're missing. Just make sure to think about flow and pacing.

You can do it. If other people can, you can. I believe in you 100%!

on 2008-07-25 07:05 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
One of the problems I’m having is that were in recession in the UK and there aren’t any jobs in my small town and after messing up my last move away from home I’m scared to do it again. I can’t do factory or food style jobs because of my allergies, I sadly had to quit my cinema job because my skin flared up and I looked like a tomato and oh god the itching *scratches* I guess we have to accept what's there just to have money, ne! But I hope something comes along for you that you'll like.

I’d love to do a comic but I have one veeeeeeery small problem, I can’t write to save my life, it’s why I tend to stick to illustrations despite the fact I’d murder to draw a story. I would love to work with you anytime you want and I’d say go for it too and don’t let those ideas sit there. I don’t want to forget my dreams really but everyone I know always tells me to give up now I’m 30 and just find something else to do, only thing is all I know is art, computers and tech. I wanted to go back to uni to improve my 3D design abilities but I’d be an ancient old crone before I got out and I have too many degrees as it is, another isn’t going to make a difference if they don’t. I guess I need to get my courage back somehow and leave my village.

I’m going to try harder. Been drawing today to give myself some motivation.

on 2008-07-25 07:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kyriesanctus.livejournal.com
If you need help writing, I'm sure Ciara or myself could help. ^^ To be honest, I might be better at writing than drawing.. But I love doing both. The feel of making something by yourself completely.. *O* My friends would always pair up and do stories and characters together, but, I never felt my stories were as strong when they were a combined effort.. Mooostly because they would take over the ideas. XD

It sucks to be us, Lucy. XDD

on 2008-07-25 07:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
Honestly that would be beyond awesome as you guys write so well. I used to be like that, in my old design job people would take over my designs and they'd change it so much it wasn't mine anymore D: Though I'm quite a good person to coalab with storywise because my mind always goes more toward how something will look rather than how it's told so I'd leave the writer to do their thing.

It so does *hugs* We have to stick two fingers up at fate XD

on 2008-07-25 07:26 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kyriesanctus.livejournal.com
FAAATE CAAAN HAAAAAVE... MY BIG GAY DANCE. XD

I bet Ciara would looove to do it with you. Me, too, but I probably have to focus on my own story and art.. 8D;; Especially for the project. (It's an idea.. Of doing like.. a book. Not a huge book, but a book, with short stories, comics, and illustrations.. And the theme is wings. And all of the things that come with them. I was even going to have Artrayu do a story about chicken wings. XD Because he's a funny bitch and that would be awesome. But yeah. How much does it suck though that Jamie was just like, "I'm reminded of Flight?" XD NO IT'S DIFFERENT JAMIE BECAUSE IT'S ANIMU. XP ::Loser.:: Okay, so that's where I got the basic idea, so shoot me. Flight isn't ALL about flying.. But I thought this would be an awesome way to put our collective heads together in a non-fandom way.. So that later we can all do that MelloNear calendar we talked about a long while back..! XD I'm so weird. And long-winded. Go, me!)

on 2008-07-25 07:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
*watches fate do the Spiderman is gay dance*

Aye wings are different than fight and not all things that have wings can fly. I've seen people do a similar thing on DA, can't remember the link (so long ago ;_;) but they took a word too and worked with it way before Flight came out, I think it was mostly illustrations but it was the same principal. So Jamie wat chu talking about?!:D It's a great idea though and would look amazing I bet ♥ And LOL chicken wings, I'd love to see that.

An MN calendar ohh I never knew you were going to do that, I'd love one of them on my walls ♥

If that's weird bottle me up some to take home XD

on 2008-07-25 08:38 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kyriesanctus.livejournal.com
D8 You must be part of the calendar.

No 'buts'!

CRAMMIN' A BUNCH OF STUFF INTO THIS COMMENT

on 2008-07-25 10:15 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rubbersoul1967.livejournal.com
Don't ever give up. As an artist, you're leaps and bounds ahead of people just starting! It would be so much worse if you dropped that unused potential.
Practice! Practice! Practice! Writers and musicians have to practice a lot too! Draw fast too. You learn more from 10 crappy drawings than one sub-par drawing that you've tweaked for over an hour~! :3

Even the greatest artists self-criticize. An artist is his own best critic!
As a kid I was told that in order to be successful that I'd had to work hard for it. And I was like wahhh, I hate working hard. I still do, but whenever moments like these come up, I think of those moments. "This is it. This is what they warned me about." It helps me get through it.

About the comic thing, go for it! Honestly, the first product will pretty much inevitably have a bunch of mistakes and it'll take forever and you'll probably hate it. But do it again and again and you'll get better and faster. For example, when I was young, it took a whole damn day to HTML code web page. Later on in my life, I could do it in half an hour.
Explore different kinds of comics. Read up on Osamu Tezuka (This especially), Yoshinaga Fumi, Naoki Urusawa, etc,. Read comics for different demographics. Witness the variety of styles, storytelling, paneling, etc,. Also, don't be afraid to copy down from your favorite artists; you learn a lot from their techniques. Of course, this is strictly for practice and these copies will most likely only be seen by you. ♥

Uhh, lemme toss links
This page (http://shii.org/2ch/art.html) has a list of stuff to inspire the crap out of you~

Honestly, when I look at other people's work, it inspires me so much and makes me want to draw. So, here :3 (NSFW btw)

Drawins (http://plus4chan.org/boards/draw/) - Mostly comics and cartoons related but a lot of people draw in animu style (I hate to call it that but I don't what to call it, heh) Lots of helpful advice and stuff

Some thread (http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=58429) - I've been lurking through this thread and it's really cool because you see people practicing and getting critiqued. You see people just like you.

http://www.posemaniacs.com/ - Great for practicing body anatomy. It's best to do the 30 second drawings at least once everyday. You'll probably suck in the beginning or suck every once in a while, but it's okay! You'll get better. :3

This thread (Absolutely NSFW) (http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=232601&x=drawing+anatomy+resources) - I picked up a bunch of really stuff from here a couple of days ago.

Thank yooou ♥

on 2008-07-26 02:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com
Blimey that’s a lot to look over THANKS SO MUCH ♥ I think I'm own worst critic and really should learn to never listen to myself :) My pouty bit is that I have worked so hard, done the art school thing had a design job for 5 years then everything messed up in the middle for a bit and I’m where I am now and I guess my frustration is showing. It is my fault for giving up and letting it get to me, I did stop drawing for 2 years which is why I’m really slow and very rusty right now. I should take your advice and go back to doing rough sketches, it’s why I do fan art lately because it’s fun a gets my mind flowing a bit more. So thanks I'll listen to your wise words, infact I got drawing again last night so I'm listening already :D

Mr Tezuka is a god, I grew up with his work. I’m also into western comics too so that helps a bit to have some variety.

Oh wow thanks for the links I’m really fond at looking at how others do it too. I really need to practice my computer colouring as I’m used to using paints but computers save money XD LOL 4chan is useful for something other than hentai, those anatomy guides are awesome.

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