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OH GOD WHY?!

I don't get it. I know the US loves ripping off foreign concepts, and I kinda-sorta see why they'd do that with some obscure Indonesian horror flick, but I mean Torchwood is IN FRIGGIN' ENGLISH. Why the hell must they 'americanize' it? What's the point? D: Apart from that, as you said, there's some great American mystery/scifi shows already, why rip off a British one instead of, you know, airing the original? Will fragile American minds not grasp the British subtleties of Torchwood? Gah. And don't even get me started on Dr Who. I share your pain without even being a fan. ><"

I love the fanart, though. The doctor looks lovely and I really like his movement and his expression.

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It’s so frustrating to see them being so bloody lazy in knocking original ideas to re-do something that already exists, as you said in ENGLISH. I think they’re talking down to people too in saying that US audiences can’t watch anything if it’s not got an American voice. Utter rubbish as you know Dr Who and Torchwood have their US fans and it’s already been shown over there to great success so I can’t understand why. It a massive problem in Hollywood as most films this year are remakes of old ones like the Fly and Nightmare on elm Street. There are all these awesome writers waiting for their books and scripts to be picked up but the powers that be would rather waste their money on something that’s already been a success and it leaves me wanting to head butt myself to death D:

They did a Doctor Who movie set in American and it was horrible so I don’t want to see that again, they took everything fun, eccentric, British and goofy away from him ;_;

And aww thank ye for liking it *hugs* I'd tried so hard to capture how Tennant looks and moves because he's such a exuberant goofball, but he's also so hard to draw. I shouldn't be so overly critical of my stuff really :)

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Yeah, I was thinking, Torchwood has such an international fanbase, I'm sure Americans who love SciFi already watch it. *boggled* You're right, it's kind of patronizing to think they have to serve every series in an US version.

I kinda like the trend of re-invention of old themes going on (like New!Trek and the new Sherlock Holmes, which are both supposedly very good), but yeah, there's way too much recycling. You don't have to remake every damn horror classic from the 80's, dammit! And you're also right that it robs a lot of new aspiring writers/creators of great opportunities. :/

And remaking Dr Who ... that's just be majorly messing with history, man. Friggin' British TV legend.

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I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. The Doctor Who and Torchwood cast had a fucking panel in the San Diego Comic Con and it was crowded. Americans watch those shows and they love them. Dr Who is world-wide known. This is infuriating, especially considering that we talked about this same issue just a few weeks ago.

And WOW that fanart is gorgeous. I'm always amazed at the resemblance between the actors and your drawings. They are spon on, in all their slashy awesomeness.

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It is and more so because they're really popular in the US. It's just the US networks being lazy and not willing to give new ideas a go so they have to re-boot everything in their image. I hope Doctor Who is a no go because it belongs to the BBC so only they have a say so in what to do with it and not Russell trying to sell his ideas to the US like poor Torchwood.

And really thank you so much for saying that as trying to capture how actors look is so blumming hard and sometimes I want to screw my drawings up.

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I'm sure they'll remake Torchwood, but I doubt Dr. Who. As much as I enjoy it, I can't see that particular concept working in the U.S., otherwise they would have done it a LONG TIME AGO. I mean seriously, Dr. Who is a CASH COW, and I really think that it would have been remade already if they really thought they could make it work.

I doubt it has anything to do with our "fragile American minds"...*raises eyebrow*

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Oh, that wasn't directed at American viewers, but the attitude of the executives thinking they have to absolutely remake everything - as if the American audience couldn't/wouldn't watch a British TV show or an Asian horror film.

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In fairness, a lot of Americans just don't "get" British shows (especially the humour; I think its too dry for most American viewers), for better or worse. *shrug* I'm not exactly sure what's not to "get", but you know how it is.

I don't even watch much television anymore, because its all too mindless for me, so I don't know how good of a judge I am of the general American viewing population. *smile*

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I'm glad, I just didn't want to make the impression I was pulling an 'oh those stupid Americans' because that really isn't my attitude. And yeah, a lot of Germans don't get British humour either so I know what you mean. ^^

Actually, there's been some really great American TV shows lately (Fringe or Mad Men for example), which AGAIN begs the question why they think they need to remake an already good British one. ^^*

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It's okay! I just hear that sort of sentiment a lot on the net and it GETS OLD so i'm sensitive to it.

I think i've heard about Fringe, but I know that I love Dollhouse, though I think that show might have been cancelled. Of course. I liked it, therefore it must die.

*LAUGH*

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They did set the 8th Doctors one off 1996 movie in America to try and set a series there but it just didn't work very well at all, can't quite place it but something was missing.

I don't think you guys have fragile minds at all *nudges* My moaning is more why bother remaking something that is already very popular in the US? Always makes me wonder because there are US shows I adore and I have no problem with them being in the US and love them for that fact. I always think it's insulting to Americans to believe you guys won't watch anything because it's in another language (and I say that for Brits too as some of our accents can be classed as foreign LOL) I just wish the Networks would get a clue and stop being lazy and give original shows a chance. I say that for UK networks too as they did remake Law and Order in the UK when the US one is fantastic. Everything is just a remake lately, originality seems to have gone the way of the Dodo.

God I sound like such a grumbly guts D:

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*LAUGH* They remade...Law and Order? How completely dumb.

I bet I know why they want to remake it. Other than the money issues. Now, don't take offense to this, because I love Dr. Who but...it's kind of cheesy. You have to admit it! And I know there are a lot of American audiences who only watch things if they have completely high drama and mindless violence or some kind of dark undercurrent. Hence why I think that Torchwood (though not exactly like that) would work a LOT better in the U.S. due to its darker nature.

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Ah no offense taken at all, after all Doctor Who is really just a kids show that adults happen to watch so it's completely cheesy and we know it ;) It's that reason I love it so much, it can mix good old fashioned Sci-fi with seriously out there and bonkers moments. I guess to American viewers it's a bit like watching a Cartoon Network show sometimes LOL

Yeah Torchwood has always dealt with more realistic drama and relationships so it could translate well. Plus their last outing pretty much destroyed Torchwwod in wales so a move somewhere else like the US makes sense. I'd miss captain Jack so much though :(

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I love Dr. Who's cheese as well. It's delicious. But I love things that have a fantastical edge to them. I mean...I like Star Trek and that's TOTAL CHEESE.

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Haha you can never go wrong with a huge helping of milk products in your TV show ;D As cool as the new Trek is the old series is just fantastic, where else could you get Spock and Kirk beating one another up because Spock's going through his time of the month? (okay every 7 years totm XD)

And sorry if my rant came across as Americans being stupid, I'd never think that ever, I know you after all hun. I'd just would love to thump some Network heads ;)

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Not a problem at all, you didn't come across that way. Sometimes it just feels like the world is of the opinion that everything we get our hands on goes straight to hell.

OMGOSH I remember that episode!! It was HILARIOUS. I loved it. Granted I still like TNG better, but OMGOSH, the old series had some serious LULZ. *giggle*

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Phew, I know I get in full rant mode without thinking so I'm glad I didn't get too bad. America does so many awesome things and it is sad people forget that.

I always find myself in tears from laughing at the things they come up with, the Mirror verse and the Tribbles, unforgettable. TNG ♥ Who can forget Piccard and his love affair with Q *laughs* I adore Data so much though.

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katamanda.livejournal.com

/JUST. SCREAMS.

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*Pets Manda*

Hope Aunty Beeb says no to the Doctor. They have to remember 1996 and Paul McGann ;_;

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katamanda.livejournal.com

They have to remember creative integrity, not money money money.

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And forget about Russell Davies ego :( Alas money always wins out, we're doomed *sniffles*

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theshiva.livejournal.com

OY.

I see a huge pitfall with remaking Torchwood. I've never seen an episode, but from what I've heard about the relationship between Jack and Ianto? I do believe that would send a great deal of Americans clutching at their pearls and running to the FCC. *eye roll* They can't even handle Adam Lambert, for crying out loud. The environment here is so touchy that they would censor that relationship to the core if it did come out in America--at least if it was on a major network.

I think ever since The Office became such a huge deal that America thinks they can remake everything.

Love the art, BTW, and it reminds me that I HAVE A COPY OF END OF TIME THAT I HAVE NOT WATCHED YET! D: D:

Also...fish and chips mmmmmmm.....

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That is very true, if they were to remake it I think they would take Jacks Omnisexual nature out (if Jacks still part of it) in favour of something very watered down. It would suck if they did that because even Doctor Who, a kids show, had Jack kissing the Doctor and that didn't end in riots.

I think the Office is the only remake that did work off the top of my head. I just wish they would show originals and put more effort into advertising them.

My Master icon demands you watch it and his boyfriend the Doctor :) And thank you *hugs* Feel so much better about my doodle knowing people like it ;)

Oh now I'm hungry :)

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kurosaki-akane.livejournal.com

Americans wanting to Americanize a series? Wow, that's new!

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LOL totally, never see them doing this sort of thing, never ^_~ Ah it's like originality just doesn't exist to some networks, always recycling ideas.

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Ack, noo o_o I've heard about the Torchwood one, it sorta didn't bother me as much because I knew it wouldn't be anything like the real Torchwood anyway, so probably no blatant and horrible copying... I hope... But Doctor Who!? o_o the horror of all horrors... No bloody way. And just ... how even? A show that's been running since the 60s and ... yeah. They already made such a mess of Life on Mars <_<" and State of Play ... oh, and this stupid comedy show here in Australia called 'Kath and Kim', I don't like the original show but it was a complete flop when they remade it (god knows why, no wait, I don't think even he does). Sigh. Anyway, still, -yes- I loved that Russel actually said that they love each other. And lovely drawing, by the way ^^ I like how the Doctor is all 'let me hold you' and the Master is grabbing him possessively... yeah, that's just what I see in it ^^;

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