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loobee ([personal profile] loobee) wrote2008-04-25 10:25 pm

Near thoughts

Been reading the [profile] near_and_dearcom's most recent post about what history people give their Nears and it brings up some great thoughts which I’m putting here as I’m sadly not a Near mun (only in wishes)

As much as I don’t think Obah meant it I do think there could be the possibility he may have some illness such as Asperger syndrome but I tend to go for that he either saw something, parental deaths maybe, that made him withdraw into his own world and at such a young age as it can affect how you relate to others. Yeah cliche but a possibility. The other thought I had for his past was that he had been abandoned by his parents, simply either just left or ignored or mentally abused. Some children know to help themselves but we all know Near has no ability (or want?) to take care of himself, and abandonment like that can bring a great mistrust of others as well as other issues.

The Near in my mind has always been an eccentric genius, most genius children feel cut off already because they have something their peers don’t have whether it’s great intellect or just plain talent. It’s something that separates them from others already. It’s said those with high IQ’s can have social issues because they show such an intensity of thought they can cut of the world. They can also be quite blunt with people as they fail to understand others aren’t on the same level so get frustrated and as such find other people’s opinions to be insignificant to their own. So I like using that with the Near in my head. Others may not understand him but he doesn’t care either way.

Erm yeah kind of didn’t want to post that in near and dear as my god coherency is not my friend today XD But I’m rather fond of eccentric genius characters which is why I love Near and the Wammy’s in general.


Not to do with rest of post but just realise I say things like ‘rather fond’ a lot, god no wonder Alex associates me with being a Brit. Funnily I have a Northern accent so don’t sound that posh only in writing LOL


PS: Insecurities 1- Lucy 0 

[identity profile] kurosaki-akane.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Near's obviously very eccentric and plain uninterested in most things others have to offer. No wonder he didn't want to go outside and play with children-- he gets more along with FBI agents!

[identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*Nods* It’s because like Mello they have something to offer him intellectually and don’t go asking stupid questions but listen to his input. He doesn't put up with fools.

Nothing to do with that but I always thought it was so cute that he asked Rester to accompany him on the plane ♥

[identity profile] kurosaki-akane.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, playful children aren't exactly challenging for his brain. They're also more immature than he is.

That scene was the cutest thing ever!!! I'm glad they showed us a second of them on the plane in the anime. It's one of the very few good things the animated second arc had (^^;
Edited 2008-04-25 21:58 (UTC)

[identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree again ^_^ even Mello was seen outside playing which shows you how different their intellect is. Near really never stops thinking, even when playing he does puzzles or crafts that require some thought.

That was so much love ♥ I awwwed when I saw it, it better stay in the seconds part special this summer.

[identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe, I'm following that com, but I'm not commenting either since I don't play Near anymore (my muse for him died a while ago sadly). Leah mentioned one of my old fics which was embarassing but she didn't link it at least jfbjfdddf XD;
But all the different backgrounds for him are pretty interesting :3 and all make sense in some way or another.

And yep, geniuses do often feel cut off from their age groups, I imagine it must be pretty tough being around people who you're so much smarter than, and how frustrating it could be. So it makes sense Near would rather hang out with those older than him or simply be by himself.

its probably why Near is so adorably bratty a lot of the time XDD 'Goood, why aren't you getting this? you're so dumb D:'

[identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's great that everyone is coming up with their own histories and each is very plausible. That’s what’s so cool about the Wammy boys.

Your right it must have been really aggravating for him to have to explain to people his thought process. And geniuses tend to see things differently than those with average intellect so really don't feel like they have to speak out loud what they are thinking because they know it's a waste. May be why he keeps to himself unless he knows those he's talking to will understand him. I know Near looked really fed up when he had to tell Aizawa why he no longer needed his help XD

I hope to join in on the Matt com once I play Matty a bit more XD

[identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Near, poor everybody XD;; having to work with such inferior intellects.

Yaaay, I'll probably put the background question up for him too soon, if someone else doesn't. And once I finally get round to advertising it XD;

[identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha-ha, I wanted to see a scene with him talking to Matsuda more than the pretending to be L one, that would of killed Nears brain XD

Oh awesome should be some interesting replies there as there are a lot of different Matts :)

LOL at Python icon ♥

[identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahah omg yes XDD Maybe he got to talk to Matsuda at some point after catching Kira

Yess, i can't wait to see what people have for him :3

Mwahhaa, I want on a mad Python icon hunt earlier~

[identity profile] split-psychosis.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
LMFAO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYYYY DSLJFDS

[identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
IT HAD TO BE DONE!! >DD

[identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
OH MI GOD!! *dies laughing*

I can't get Cleese in a bikini out of my mind now thanks XD *brain melty*

[identity profile] katamanda.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Mwahahahaha~

My evil plans are complete! :)

[identity profile] split-psychosis.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm I know people speculate about him having something like Aspergers or some form of Autism, which, wouldn't be surprising. Same goes for L. But...I think when a label is put on a character it takes all the magic and quirkiness away. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with either of these but I tend to think it's more than just one thing that makes Near the way he is.

No one knows the past Near had, but I do think that there's a high chance that he was neglected as a child. It fits with his behaviour - it's known that children who have been neglected/ignored in the early stages of their development become inwardly focused. It also accounts for his poor social skills and his knack for not making eye contact.

Like you, I love to think that Near's an eccentric genius and it adds so much more to his character. He knows he's above everyone at an intellectual level and those who can't match up to it or keep his interest are usually ignored. It's this inability to relate that would turn him even more inward, among other things.

When it comes to Near's personality and character, his odd quirks and way of thinking I can relate to him greatly. Not saying that I'm as "cold" as he appears, but I can kind of understand where he comes from. [That and I adore playing with my Thomas train set still, doing puzzles and my teachers yell at me for playing with my hair in class |D]

Yea I'm not sure where I'm going with this anymore but even though I'm certainly not against "diagnosing" characters, I do like to think sometimes, if we dissect them completely, then they become less real. And if anything, characters such as Near, Mello, Matt and L are very real to me.

/random rambling

[identity profile] loobeeinthesky.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm one to go with the neglect more than an illness really, as yeah I like to think he's the way he is because of his quirks not some medical reason. Also my sister works with neglected children and I've seen quite a few that were so withdraw into themselves it was hard to talk to them unless they wanted to connect with you. I mainly think it's interesting that people can see different things with just one character.

Eccentric people are a massive love of mine, I love those with quirks that make then stand out from society and yep I'm with Near being one of them big time. Your right if you analyse it too deeply the magic goes away. I just think he’s of such a genius level he doesn’t connect with others well and they fail to understand him and vice versa.

I know I don't seem now it but I had a really high IQ when I was young (I think it's died now LOL) and have some Near quirks myself, the constantly playing with things while contemplating ideas and even the analytical way of thinking (my sister calls me a freak because of it, *hohum* :D) Though I definitely lack the cold part XD

I'm probably rambling to as my mind is shot today XD

PS I hate being a Brit as I can't hear Near's US voice on Adult Swim *cries* maybe that's a good thing?!!!!

[identity profile] split-psychosis.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god...if you met me...|D I am seriously so weird my friends think I'm crazy most of the time |D When I'm around people I know I get sometimes really excited, or when I'm nervous I start to laugh. Around new people I'm usually very shy and withdrawn. Having a voice that sounds like a 5 yearold doesn't help either |D

HIGH FIVE FOR HIGH IQs |D ♥

[WATCH OUT LIFESTORY COMING AT YOU]

Mm, when I was very young and diagnosed with Leukemia before they put me on chemo they decided to include me in this study to see how the drugs would affect IQ, memory, intelligence, and learning over a period of time and when I took the test I scored in most areas either very above average or in the top two % |D; Then they drugged me up to kill off the cancer, and some brain cells went bye bye. But I had to go back for the test not too long ago and my scores were still very high and for language and a few other categories I was still up there in the top two % |D It made me feel good, but also bad in a way because I'm the oddball in the study. I basically came out of everything mostly without a scratch, whereas others now have learning problems and struggle cognitively or when it comes to motor coordination. My mom also says it's probably a good thing I lost a few brain cells |D Because apparently I was kind of weirder.

I've always been different from others, in the sense that well |D I REALLY haven't been able to relate to most my age for the longest time. When I was younger I'd favour taking to adults over talking to other kids. (I was also a right brat and even weirder than I am now |D)

My friends sometime poke fun at me because I skipped a grade and call me a genius even though I feel like an idiot most of the time |D; BUT HEY it's ok :'D ~

That's why, when I look at myself, and then look at Near, and then at all the different labels our society has come up with I wonder faintly what would I be labeled.

I'm weird as hell, but I don't mind it. <3

...

Holy hell what the hell was I rambling about?

AWW *pets* no worries it's bound to end up on youtube LOL ♥♥♥

too lazy to log out so have a smiling Matt!

[identity profile] praise-jeevas.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I laughed my head off when I got my IQ score back as we did it at work because we were doing high end military programs and had to go through intelligence tests and the lads were saying as a girl I was stupider. Well I showed them by getting the highest *hooohooo*

That’s such a terrible thing to go through so young *hugs* I’m so happy you came out of it alright as you’re the sweetest kindest person I’ve ever met ♥ That must of been so much to go through, i have eczema but i would never have the courage to deal with that. I don’t think your weird at all in fact I think your quite similar to me (hope that’s not scary XD) some fail to understand people who come across as being different but we exist XD

My friends always look down on me because I'm the brightest of them all in fact they always get me to fix things for them yet because I'm shy I never get some of the things they can get so easily and they never understand that. So your not alone in your weirdness at all me dear ♥ If you are I am as well, mind you being a geek and different is really cool and awesome ♥

We look at the stars in wonder while most keep their heads to the ground and will never know what thats like :P

And god now I'm off on one XD